Robert DiLella Jr.. Yeah. Well, everything's a lot. The houses are bigger now on the properties too, right? They're taking up a lot more of the property as much as they can. Yeah.
Christian Busk. They're, architecture is sold by square footage, and people, I think, want to get as much as they can with the property they have. And I understand, but it's nice when you get a collaboration of architects and interior designers and landscape architects who are not one controls everything. Hey, well, if you do this room, can we do it over here and make this this way and make this way? Then we get this opportunity and we can link it this way and make a garden experience. There's boxes everywhere. And that's challenging. I mean, but if the owner wants something unusual That's good. I mean, they get the three professionals to work together.
Robert DiLella Jr.. How do they usually go when you have three together? I mean, what's the, what's the
Christian Busk. I have some stories about that. Yeah. They're not always good in my part.
Robert DiLella Jr.. I think you have three different visions sometimes, right? Yeah. Going to marry them together.
Christian Busk. Yeah. Yeah. I've had some challenges with that. You know, architects work a certain way and, if somebody else is, what's interesting is when you're in a meeting and they have the interior designer and the architect in you there and you brought in maybe months after they started. So there's some idea what they're going to do. I have one in particular in mind. Anyways, so I'd worked with this client and his brother. And this is my second home. I get to work with him on business a new home. So we renovated the last one. They like everything we did. So they bring me and said, so Christian, what do you think about, what do you think this house should look like?
Christian Busk. What do you like about Florida homes? I mean, what's your perfect Florida home? Well, for you from the South, as is always hot. I said, I like portraits. I like, to get out of the sun. I like, but I really like, something that has a, has a breezeway somewhere where we can create air through there because, if you have a porch, you don't have any air., it really, the fans can only do so much. I said, but I like, I like porches from porches. I like back porches. I like interconnecting spaces and all. And The owner says, well We have this brought to you. We have the houses here and we have two driveways come out. We have the carriages on both sides.
Christian Busk. How are we going to make the front entry look right? I said, well, why don't you come up through the middle and do, do a circular thing with a fountain and do the garages on the inside. And then we've created the whole front entry with, with water and a direction. I said, and then we have the rest of property to landscape. So I'm not always a fan of the architects when I say something like that because they've already gotten too far along, I think, with their ideas of the structure. And unfortunately, I, it's hard to sit there and go, I could say it or I don't say it, but don't say it. Well, as, as they got it done, the project was beautiful.
Christian Busk. And I got to do the swimming pool and all the hardscapes and all the, all the hard, the driveway. And it was, it was wonderful for that. But unfortunately it's embarrassing to sit there and have, and be grilled. Another professional when they were in his ideas and it's very uncomfortable, but When you get put on the spot, you really have to say what you think. And I say, I know, I, I, yeah, no, but it didn't work out. The architect still doesn't care for that situation, but I, I was kind of forced to say what I think.
Robert DiLella Jr.. And that hurts. So you go a little bit.
Christian Busk. Unfortunately, you don't want to step on people's toes, but When they say I have a challenge, they want to fix it. Here's one way to fix it. I'm not designing the house, but I'll tell you how we've done it before. And they thought, oh yeah, we've done houses like that. So it was like, it wasn't out of their real house, but it was, it's, it's, it's, it's what a collaboration should be. But you don't always get everything you want, but you know what, at the end of the game, we had another one we did and we did in Pelican Bay, similar. Because the arch, the architect wouldn't like me on this one. Yeah. They spent, but they had spent months designing this one thing.
Christian Busk. They had, the property was really long, but they, they had actually designed the most incredible outdoor space I've ever seen. But they put it so close to building. I had no, no landscape experience at all. I said, well, can't you guys like float that away? Just push it to the back, setback line. Well, we could. I said, well, can we're just linking together with the trowel. And I said that we need to control the Western sun there anyways. So we did it. And, I was able to get enough space to do other things when that happened. And so, I mean, I'm just stuck in this little, footprint. I can't, there's only so much room.
Christian Busk. So that one worked out great for me, but they have this. I don't think it really changed what the architect was doing, but it was beautiful at the end. It really wasn't. I got to work for the interior design that too. That, that takes professionals. This guy worked for the At a big company. And so we got what he needed to get. Beautiful. But they were, they weren't afraid to work with professionals and get their opinion. Now I thought that was brilliant., if you're going to hire somebody that don't just be in a bubble here, look at all your, look at your options, before you get the thing under construction. It wasn't hard. They'd already designed structures.
Christian Busk. They just shipped it back. It didn't change any of the working drawings. And yeah, but it's like, if you guys want me to work, you better give me a little area to work in. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's how it goes in my world. It's very hard. And now it's even more difficult because the structures are so much larger than they ever were. Yeah, we had, we did have, I'd had a wonderful couple of work. Yeah. And the early did was right. It was fine and Gordon drive. It was probably a half a mile from the Port Royal Club, on the east side and say they went to do it whole Florida, Key West, which they did, but they wanted to get a south.
Christian Busk. They want to interconnect them, which is what we did with, with, with decks and water gardens, and they had the alley behind them. So, so we didn't have to park in the front. I don't think it was, but, it turned out to be one of the most enjoyable projects because they were fun people and they wanted to be one of the Key West. It was only, it was one story with a loft and the other was, was actually the garage and kind of a guest swing, but it wasn't overpowering and it was in the early days and people didn't have much, didn't need to have much footage. Yeah. People don't think they wanted something too big. Yeah.
Christian Busk. I think people get carried away with how many rooms are, really deep and they come from one time a year. San Hotel, right?
Robert DiLella Jr.. Yeah. It's incredible.
Christian Busk. And we're going to party. I mean, I didn't do it these places.
Robert DiLella Jr.. You know, I mean, it was going to clean up. They're conditioned to clean it and maintain it. It's kind of funny.
Christian Busk. I don't know. So, yeah, if, he gets to do some, interesting projects over time and, some of them aren't, aren't that large and some of the, some of the interesting projects are when they just give you, carte blanche to do whatever, whatever you think, I need, I just pleased to, so you're, you're looking at every setback, see what you can do for the people and where you have to expand the space and make it where you can use every square inch and walk through the garden and make these walkway experiences. And now we have the artificial turf that's changed the game more than anything, because now we can have turf under shade.
Christian Busk. I can run under trees, because now we're vacuuming leaves instead of, trying to rake them up and you're not blowing them, but you're, you're vacuum with a true vacuum. So those are, those are, we just did a huge project and they had the largest installation for a residential project. There's one company in Florida. It was like the whole front was 400 linear feet in Port Royal. It was a beautiful, beautiful execution. We had to do an insane garden. I mean, I really, I'm serious. It was, we had done the back like two years before and they were so excited about that back. And it was just tiny little pie shape. The front was like 10 times the space.
Christian Busk. We had to get everything through the driveway, the front entry and that kind of thing. And so we were just really, really fun things. But yeah, that has, that has lifted the restriction of having grass that takes hours of light a day to keep alive and you can go anywhere you want to with it. And then it's just, and they warranty that stuff for like 25 years. I mean, most of my clients are going to be in a nursing home with it. Yeah. But I mean I say that in a nice way, but Anyways, that's really changed the game for landscape work. That wasn't really popular 25 years ago. We were having a hard time and some developments wouldn't even allow it.
Christian Busk. In fact, I won't say too much. It's still on the books. I'm certain developments. They don't Really, they don't really endorse it, but I don't think they're stopping it because there's so much shape in some of these developments. There's nothing else to do besides pebbles. They don't want to see that to the street. You're not allowed to do so. You're restricted and that's a great material to use. Even if you don't use a lot of it's just no maintenance. There's no pesticides. People are doing that more to control the pesticides because we're always spraying even though it's either for a tan St.
Christian Busk. Augustine, which we don't really use anymore, or the Empire Zorica, which is our best golf course looking grass.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Some people do that in their homes too, right? Well
Christian Busk. Then there's one variety that if you're really connoisseur of turf grass You can use a celebration. There's some really nice Bermuda's, but they're a little bit more. There's so many grasses out there. There's 15 different varieties of Soreja grass and all the golf courses use different grasses because of the height that they excel on being cut. The greens are one, the collars are one. I came from, one of my majors was the golf course Maintenance, but that's my agriculture degree. You know, you don't have that much. People just want to look great all the time. So that's where the artificial turf comes in. But Sometimes it's light.
Christian Busk. We do some gardens that some of the canopies now are, they started at 12, 14 feet. Now they're like 50 or 60 feet. So the light coming from the garden from the south side gets blocked by the angle of light in the winter. So that's a little challenging. On turf, when we started, there's plenty of light. When it grows in after 10 or 15 years, the light changes. And so we're modifying gardens in five or 10 year cycles, depending on what the maintenance is like, then how fast the canopy grows. But People love it. I mean, it's just changes and you have water gardens. It's fun to see people transform their places from being really boring and ugly to like, it's spectacular.
Christian Busk. I mean, even my property, I have a creek running around my entire property, 450 feet of water. But the driveway is quite large to get people in and out of it. And I didn't have a problem with space. So I finally got this historic Mountain, a friend of mine found for me, 100 years old by a French designer. And all I had was a top part. I didn't have a base and I didn't really have the budget to build one. So I used an old bakery bowl that was like a mixing bowl. It was like a three and a half, four feet wide. And I just plopped that fountain there, put the pebbles in there, got the pump hooked up and have an automatic fill on it. I'm happy as a client.
Christian Busk. I get out of my car and I don't even want to go anywhere. It's Amazing what water does for people. And I'm in the business and I was like, I've never had a spot in people. I've done so many for people, but The water and the hearing water. We're doing one right now for some really wonderful clients in Pelican Marsh. They said, we're right next to Vanderbilt Drive. It's really gets noisy. Can you do anything about that? I said, I know you do have a water garden. But that one's too loud. I said, well, let's give you three different types. So whatever time of entertaining you're doing, you can press the accessory button and you can get what you want. We like that.
Christian Busk. You're redoing something that's already there. Not changing. Well, change it now today. Today, different than the swimming pools 20 years ago. People want those lounge areas because we found that people want to hang out by their spa and they want to hang out with their feet in the water in the lounge pool or put their lounges in there and have an umbrella just like sitting there in a magazine. How relaxing is that? I mean, yeah, I said that. It's like, can you do this? I can add that to your existing swimming pool. You can? I said, just pin in to dowel into it and we just pour the concrete. We're done. It's like, really?
Christian Busk. So well, we add LED lights and then we have push water so that it gets cleaned out and all that. But I said, yeah, this is so much fun. All the kids playing at the grandkids' cup is like, that's where they hang out and the mothers stay in the spa. They're sitting on the spa and they watch the kids. So it's a perfect gathering spot. So that's what's changed the industry there. People want water. They want to hear the sound of water. They want to see it. The water walls, the jumping water, the spilling water. It's all of those things together that make a space really work.
Christian Busk. And then We're even doing this artificial turf in these courtyards, which may not Think it's believable, but from a distance, it really is. And at night, it gives you a certain value of the stones start floating with the lighting and you just start seeing the black and white of the paving basically in the garden. It's an art form. When you're playing with light now, it changes. And when people entertain and making it safe and all the lighting we get to do and all the different things you get to work with lighting and architecture Makes it a full program.
Robert DiLella Jr.. It's probably an elementary question, but I remember when we moved into our neighborhood, there were houses that were on the left and houses that were on the right. So the ones on the left were face the back of house face north and the right back of house face south. What's the best exposure for a house?
Christian Busk. Well, clearly south because all of our winter sun starts shifting about October and it keeps dropping until it's about 20 degrees from Vertical. But Yeah, so all your light. Yeah, but you know what? Depends on if you're. What you're looking for, but I think most of our northern visitors, they're like it's so dimensionless, cloudy and all this. They really want to see bright and everything's coming in at a 20 degree. I mean, it throws so much light in the house. All those entertainment areas. It's just amazing. However, the facing north, you're really not getting the east or the west side. Some people like that. They don't really want the brightness either way.
Christian Busk. You know So if you're looking for the southern sky, if you're getting that because you're the morning, you're getting light in the afternoon, you're getting light. Some people don't want to see the light in the summertime. It's really. Northern exposure, the lights just not as good. They just don't get the light into the house. It's just you have to have a lot more skylights to make it really make the house work. Well, skylights are important because a lot of times they're not part of the original design and it's so important. Some of these houses are just Sealed up at the top.
Christian Busk. There's not a lot., back in the architecture, you see even the Greek days and they were home and all that. You see all these beautiful Openings in the top to let the light in. It just was just classic. It was beautiful. I mean, it just makes the spaces come alive. The problem with a lot of architecture you'll see. And I'm sorry to say that, but a lot of it, I don't know why they're so afraid of the skylights because I think it just brings life into the house. So my house has a few in the kitchen. I just that's where I spent a lot of time. This is always has a light, even if you don't have the lights on in the daytime. You cook. Yeah, I'd survival cooking.
Christian Busk. Survival cooking. Grilling is survival, but it can be good too. No, nothing to elaborate.
Robert DiLella Jr.. It takes a bit of time. It's all right. It's all good. You mentioned music. That music is a big part of your life.
Christian Busk. Yeah, I've got to. I got to Learn Piano at an early age, starting in second grade. I get to take piano all through high school Growing up. And music as a musician. That was really rare. No, you either like to do it or you really practiced hard and you made good., I had two sisters on either side. They took lessons, but they didn't want to practice. So it's like any learned experience. You got to do a lot of it. So I appreciate music from doing that. I can some people play music from by ear. I don't even know how they do. If your memory goes, you're stuck. You're stuck. If you have like a brain fog, you're in big trouble. The music is there. You can read.
Christian Busk. You can read that music and get back on track. The other you're done. You are done. You might as well cash on it. Get off the chair. It's very hard. Learning to read music just gives a whole different experience. No matter where you want to take it. I mean, you can take it. I'm not a classic pianist. So I learned jazz. And I had a church friend that was teaching as a piano. And she played for all the other rich Christmas parties in Palm Beach. She played the Palm Beach parties with her. That was the drummer. So I could have learned, a sense of jazz that she played, which was really something at that time. Nobody would really do. I mean, it wasn't popular today.
Christian Busk. You don't see many people playing piano. Do you just turn on? You're just going to hit YouTube or they're going to have Spotify or they're going to go Any music station. So it's very, it's easy to totally cash out of that. But the Beauty you get is how you play the music. And where did that, where do you find the rest of the music? Where are you? How long you supposed to hold that note? You supposed to hold this note where you're playing other ones with the other fingers. Really? Nobody knows that you're doing it, but I mean, it's what the artists do with music. And if you're great, these great pianists, they just hold you in suspension of the way they play the music.
Christian Busk. The keys are the same. It's how They're playing it. So it's appreciation of that. I think when you learn music,. What's playing in your house? Oh, I still like the old standards., I can't believe that. Of course, my era is, you grow up with your parents and I never thought you'd really Enjoy the older music. But some of our classical things were, I have to say, Frank Sinatra, Johnny Mathis. Yeah, I mean, some of those, the music was great. And then now you've got people doing some great things like Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga. The latest stuff Was pretty amazing. You have some great artists out there, but there's some that aren't so good. But they're not as accomplished.
Christian Busk. Nobody had to work as hard as the artists. There were movie stars at the same time, back in the era. I don't think, I don't I think with technology, you tend to skip over that. It was great, wasn't it? And then that's it. But I think the effort it took to ride in those trains or taking those plane flights to go to different places to shoot films and to be a concert and stuff was just all that you could do as a person just to get there on time and do your magic. Whether you're a singer or an actor. That's People don't understand how much work it takes. And not many people are willing to do that.
Christian Busk. It takes a huge sacrifice., as an artist, any type of artist, as painters or sculptors, where it's the Bruce in the pudding, you can't really fake some of that stuff.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Yeah. We have a playlist on Spotify for all the guests that come on the show. So I want to add some from your genre or whatever you would choose. Would that be Frank or who else would we put in to represent you?
Christian Busk. It's hard to believe. Oh I don't know. That's kind of funny. There's so much music. Because my era was a disco era. So I mean, there's some beautiful things from there. I mean, some of it is a Thomas summer. I would listen to that every day. But I mean I can pick out something. But yeah, I like some of the classics like Claire D'Alene. It's wonderful. Claire D'Alene. That's some beautiful music. Oh, some of the rockman stuff is just out of this world. But I mean, that's all classic stuff. I don't know. But if I just turn the music on, I want to hear some Frank Sinatra., so yeah. Johnny Matzas. They're both one voices. And then there's others.
Christian Busk. But I mean, those are my go-to.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Johnny Matzas was our Christmas voice. That whole, my mom loved Johnny Matzas.
Christian Busk. Unbelievable. Yeah. They went on and on. That voice. I spent time just, I liked watching old movies. Movies that had a lot of They were good plots,. Happy plots. I'm not so good about the dramas. Anyway But that's all good. Yeah, music is so wonderful. If you just If you have the time to spend and do something yourself is wonderful. It's not so popular. But, people have a longer time than they used to., people used to work a lot harder than they do. But I don't think people are doing what they would do. It's so much easier to just hit a button. So it's either hit the button or just try to figure it out. Go get some new music.
Christian Busk. The problem with that is, I don't know if you try to do this on Amazon or not, but last time I went to order music, they took my credit card and started charging whatever they wanted to. Because what happens, they skip over it. Instead of you ordering where you think you're ordering, another one picks it up and then they get your card. So it's not so easy doing that online. Like the old days you used to go into a music store and pick up the music you wanted. Or, but this is what's happening. It's happening with businesses. You're getting defrauded out of so much money. Either ACHs or it's just it's going rampant. They're hacking into your emails.
Christian Busk. They find out who you're working with. They change something a little bit. The client sends them the money and said to you, it's like, hey, I didn't send that to you. Well, I got some., you just people are not having control over things that you like they used to it and people they can just hack into anything, which is very scary.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Well, and the music they were talking about how Back in the day, a few decades ago with music, you didn't have the option to change. You had radio stations and you had cassette tape or an album. Right. Final. Yeah. We didn't have the option to change stations all the time. So you were exposed to music that you normally might not choose, but you were exposed to different music. So there was more musical genres because now you can if you don't like country, you just turn country off. But if a country song came on and station listen to it, you heard it and you maybe were exposed to something you weren't exposed to before.
Robert DiLella Jr.. So that has Changed how people relate to music too, because they can be so selective about it.
Christian Busk. Yeah. Choose exactly what they want., it's funny. I have a friend that's playing so I played all of our gatherings at my my historic house and everybody just loved hearing the talk music. And all of a sudden he had a stroke. He played by ear and he came over and he didn't want to play anymore. I said, can't you play some of your music? I can't remember it. Well It's good to have music. You could read.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Yeah. Yeah. I always wondered how people do that without being able to read it. How they. Yeah. How do you. Do you play? No, I just I'm always I'm always enamored by people who do.
Christian Busk. It's just one, two, three, but you get to do a lot of one, two, three. And then it's not just playing the notes. It's how they were meant to be played. And that's the hardest part. Is that a quarter? And is that one has a dot over the top? Is that supposed to hold that a little longer? Okay. Hold this one. You're supposed to play the other ones. That's a lot to do. No, it's funny with what's really written in the music. It looks like one thing, but what's really written now is meant to be played. Interesting. It's just a whole other world for somebody. These people that play, it's insane how they do what they do. Their genius is at that. Yeah.
Christian Busk. Obviously, their mind just clicks right into it. A lot of practice, but they're very smart at arithmetic or something that gets their mind Keyed into it. And you do memorize. You memorize the, and you do memorize it. But if you have a sweaty moment where you're just stressed out, you can totally blank out while you're doing it. So it's good. It's good to go., I got that key, but otherwise you're done. You have to stop. Yeah, you do have to stop. But that's always good.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Is there a person that has had a big influence on you? It's really helped shape your life and over the course of your life, is there somebody who impacted you in that way?
Christian Busk. Interesting. One single person. I think it's just more As a group. Well, I was lucky enough. I had a dear friend in Brazil that I traveled 15 trips to Brazil, and I got to go meet the most famous landscape architect in the world Roberta Burley-Marks. He was privileged. He grew up in a wealthy family, but he grew up being a singer, and he learned sculpture and landscape architecture. He did all the work with Oscar Niemeyer and Brazilian with all the beautiful architecture. He did all the gardens, because there was nobody else in the 50s. He did quite a few gardens. I got to go visit him at his studio, and then I got invited to his house for a year.
Christian Busk. They were selecting him at one of his artworks for the Nicaroid movie theater curtain. They were going to reproduce his art to close at the plays and musical events around me. So I got to go to his house. He lived outside of Rio, and everything was curated at his house, his gardens, his greenhouses. He was doing a studio up on the hill that had all of his artwork actually imprinted in concrete. They sculpted out the art as though it was a painting in concrete. It was just amazing stuff. But he had all these paintings. I got To meet him, and he had 45 people for lobster and filet mignon with all the champagne and wine you'd ever want to have.
Christian Busk. We're talking about 45 people for a sit-down dinner. It was quite impressive. So I got to meet the man with the art, and then someone world famous. He did "Brickle Avenue" in Miami, and he did parts of the band, "Garden of New York," and many other things. But He was the most famous for "Brazilian." But to see his art and to get to meet him. He did a number of talks for landscape architecture, the foundation. He would come into and say he spoke pretty good English for someone that spoke Portuguese his whole life. He could hear any of his show images and all. It was quite a change just to see something that beautiful that one person developed over time.
Christian Busk. I Don't know whether-- I really didn't have that much time there, but I get to get the essence of how important it was to their country. Because they're actually developing A place like "Brazilia." All those families were very close-knit. No one wanted to leave the coast where it developed. All the development happened in Brazil. So they had to pay people three times a salary to go to the interior and work in "Brazilia." But even doing that Yeah, so not Really one thing to travel was interesting. Just seeing different things in China and Hong Kong and all over Europe. And Just seeing how different things were There's so much to look at and immerse yourself in.
Christian Busk. But I don't know just one thing that's kind of hard. You know what happens in Naples? You're kind of in a bubble. If you're working, there's not much time to leave and do a lot of travel. I say that. That's somewhat true, but you can do whatever you want to do. Not really one thing. Did I work with any-- and the architects were great. I never really had-- Not Really give access to-- Usually all that work is done before you get it. So many times I have to work like a band-aid and make it beautiful. And that's OK too, but not Really one person. It was nice to learn music at an early age. I don't do so much as I'd like to because I get busy at work.
Christian Busk. You get into your regular routine.
Robert DiLella Jr.. How about a hidden talent? Do you have a hidden talent? A hidden talent. Oh, I can whistle.
Christian Busk. No A hidden talent. God, I wish I could say. I could be a great radio announcer. There you go. Yeah, I could. Going to sit there for hours and talk Radio. No, it's pretty funny. I don't know. I don't know what to say about that. No I think I Pretty much promote what I can do. And I do. But I change things up. I like to invent things when I can. I can make things better. It's fun. And the people coming up in the industry, what's interesting is I'm finding that younger generations don't want to have as much social interaction. I don't know if it's because-- I guess it is because of the internet and Facebook and all that.
Christian Busk. Although you want to be great and you want to be a star and all that. It takes a lot to go from what you're seeing on Facebook and from where you are sometimes. And that's what's happening to the younger generation. It's so much of a gap between what you're seeing and where you are that's insurmountable. I don't know. They don't show the middle stages of how people's mistakes they target are. Yeah. They used to have a friend say, people see the drink show. They don't see the accents. Yeah. Right? Right? So tell me how hard you must have worked and you're working. They all say, oh, you were so lucky. You know, the harder it worked, the luckier I got.
Christian Busk. But yeah, I think that we're finding in our landscape architecture organization, if you go to these seminars-- I mean, I've been going for 40 years. But you know what? There's just a fraction of the younger people there anymore. They don't want to be there with you. They don't want to talk to you. It seems like I may be wrong. But I mean, they don't want to immerse themselves in that to learn about the new products, the new pottery, the new lighting, the new outdoor furniture, the new everything that we have access that we have, all these wonderful materials we use in our work. I think they think they can get it online so much easier. And maybe it is easier.
Christian Busk. But it's not-- you don't hear all the problems with it. Hey, I put that tile on the wall. You know what? That lat cream, I can see right through it. I'll never use that again. Because there's certain things you can tell people that in person, it's not going to be on the internet. And hey, I work with this client that they hated that stuff, that silvery stuff. It flaked right off. You can't use it outside. You're telling people things for your life experience. That doesn't always equate when you're just sitting on a screen. And I don't think you can-- you can't be the best you can be with just relying on that screen to bring everything for you.
Christian Busk. I think you just have to-- and although we named-- when I started out I was so shy because how my dad was never at home, but I was so shy. I didn't want to pick up a phone and ask anybody anything. So I found out my dad gave-- say, you want to work-- you want to work this old model I got out and-- I was going to use it for hunting, but I'm not going to use it. You want to use it and maybe take it to school. I said, yeah, that'd be cool. So I had to fix it all up. He said, you don't have to call the mechanic. Is that-- you know that little-- that little glass bowl, it's got those flakes in it. I think it's not going through the engine so good. I said, I can't call him.
Christian Busk. He said, no, just pick up the phone. The guy hears the guy saying-- I can't do it. No, you can just pick up the-- I can't do it. Swat. No. When he got through that, when he--, it's that exposure. And he was forced to do things you don't normally feel comfortable doing. So I finally got through that. And I learned pretty good how to do it. These are simple engines. Now you can't figure out where the carburetor is or where the starter is. It's all covered up in the new cars. You can't work on them. You can't do anything. No. The computer controls everything. But I mean, back in the day, these cars from the 1930s were so basic.
Christian Busk. And you could almost write on what everything was. And there was a squatter for it to-- The core of the starter. Yeah, there was the engine, I can tell. But it was a good life experience.
Robert DiLella Jr.. So we saw a comedian recently, in the opening act. The comedian was talking about how When you used to have to call a girl for a date or call somebody for a date, you had to be terrified that the father was going to answer. And you would ask for the daughter. And how easy they have it now, because they could just send a text. They don't have to worry about going through the dad. But you'd have to hear the dad's voice and the other end.
Christian Busk. You're going To date my dad or daughter where you're going to take her? Yeah.
Robert DiLella Jr.. I'm not kidding. No, that's all right. That was something that I didn't think about, that we had to deal with. Yeah. It was a terror of calling anybody on the phone. I mean, now the phones don't-- you don't call anymore.
Christian Busk. Now the phones are going to just pick up anywhere. We didn't get to do that back in the day. You got to be at home.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Yep. Yeah, turn a certain time. No. If you missed that call, you missed that person.
Christian Busk. You'd tell my sister to get off the phone. She'd been on there for an hour. Yeah, you had all that to do. Remember? Then you had party lines. I heard what you said about it.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Yeah, you could hear everybody. I had two sisters, too.
Christian Busk. That was a little bit. That would be part of my time. Yeah, that was funny. Things change over time. But I'm glad to be in Naples and be a part of the whole changing in Naples, all the parts of it. I don't think I want to say. But it is progress in some ways. But the main core-- I'm not going to go back to the main core of Naples. It still feels the same to me after 40 years to downtown. I mean, it's gotten better, obviously. It's more beautiful. It's more expensive. At least we have a town center. We have a sense of place.
Robert DiLella Jr.. So many places. No place like this in the world. This is so special.
Christian Busk. No, it's already in the-- and the height of the buildings change it, keep it that way, where the churches are, where the parks are, where the beach lines, the whole town. I mean, there's only so much space. Like other places, Palm Beach is absolutely incredible. But it's not really accessible like Naples is. But beautiful. Insane. I grew up there. Of course, we drive by Mar-a-Lago. Oh my gosh. I see an Abbe. Acre's a wonderful-- look at that. That was before you bought it. That's amazing. Amazing place. It's great to be from an area like that. I'm happy to be isolated in Naples. I feel like I'm very isolated because it just doesn't change much.
Robert DiLella Jr.. You're a big part of it. You're a big part of it. I have to be a little bit part of it. Yeah. If your life were a movie, what would the opening soundtrack be?
Christian Busk. God, that's interesting. I don't even know. Everything's coming up roses probably. Anyways, yeah. That's an interesting question. This has been great. I don't think you could I could have stayed at Palm Beach. I would have a wonderful career. I don't think it's as friendly as Naples, though. I just think you had a lot more elements come in there that are much more difficult to deal with than all the other characters here. But I may not just think there was a lot more of everything on the East Coast. And I'm happy to be here more for quiet area, really. I mean, when you're younger, you want to go out and explore everything.
Christian Busk. But as you're aged, it's like, I really don't need that. You know, I'm happy right here. We get all right here. Yeah. I don't need that. Yeah. I don't need this. And so you find a happy medium where you are, what you're doing, and what you have. And it's all good. I'm just happy to just be interested in Working with old structures and having fun with that and then seeing people smile when they've finished it and they walk through it. It's like, I can't believe this. And well, especially now. It's more evident than ever when people are able to do functions and people just-- I have clients come over. They just don't know how you started anything. And why did you do it?
Christian Busk. Why did you do that?
Robert DiLella Jr.. Are you serious?
Christian Busk. You took that up on that 10 foot hill in one piece. And then you turned it like 90 degrees. Whoever does that, it's the-- anyways, you have to like-- I haven't liked the process again. Yeah. So I've been talking and taking something, and it's nothing and turning it into something. It's great. But I got a lot to work with on that one. But It's fun. Fun stuff. So it makes it go around. And that's what I like doing. Designing projects for people when you start. It's really either just been let go or it's not right. It never was right. And you change it around. You get done. It's like, it's right.
Christian Busk. And it's like, that just feels so good to be able to do that for someone that can't do it. It doesn't have the They just can't. They don't know anything about it. They have no clue what to do and how to do it and what to leave out, what to put in. And it's always-- it makes it a challenge. It makes it interesting work. Yeah. I keep doing it.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Yeah. And we're blessed to have you. How can you do it? Right. I keep doing it. It's awesome to realize that it was you who was behind that house, because that was like one of our-- growing up in this area, going by that oriental house down there was just something that-- it was like when we first saw Disney World for me. It was-- it had that much of an impact on it.
Christian Busk. Really? That's great. It had so much to it. And we did it on such a budget. It was insane. We had Rock and Waters-- a company out of California, Rock and Waterscapes, come in at-- because it was a huge water escape for the neighborhood. It was the largest one that ever happened in Naples. Because it was Yeah, you went from the house all the way down to the lake. And it was like a lot. Everything was lined with rubber liners and all these beautiful boulders. They always did the best work. They did two different waterfalls there. Yeah, it was a fun one. Because there was so much space, but you had to be real careful how much you did in the open areas. It was six acres.
Christian Busk. Most people were lucky if they have a quarter acre lot.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of turf.
Christian Busk. But we covered the areas up front pretty much like it was. The trees are still there. And they're still salt tolerant. And they're one of the best I've ever used. That's pretty much the way it's always been. 40 years. That's hard to say for landscapes. Yeah, it is. It's easy to go
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Christian Busk. People just change the deal with what they want. Whether it's right or wrong, and they don't know how hard it's going to be to maintain. But to have a garden stick around for 40 years is a long time. Yeah. And the one I'm working on now is not interesting. I work with this I haven't done the research, except this is funny. The first woman, she's no longer here. But she was older when I worked with her. Her last name was Sacheini. I said, what a strange name. She was an heir to the Swiss monarchy somewhere, but she won't tell us. So I said, OK. Then I was then looking through some historical pictures and the Naples-- I think it was in the history book of Naples.
Christian Busk. And there was a picture from 1905. And I said, one of the names was Sacheini. S-Z-Y-C-H-E-N-I. I said, who would ever be here in 1905 with that name? Well, they must have been connected way back when. But she built this beautiful house. It's only a one story with two car garage. I've worked on that for 40 years. So I worked on the second one. We rented a little renovation. The third one, only renovated, got here and spent one week and said, we're going back to Boca. We don't like it. And then the third guy, the fourth guy again in there, said, he's from Canada. And he said, I really like this way. Can you change it? I said Yeah, OK. And he had the Arctic coming.
Christian Busk. He said, Arctic wonder, totally redo the roof. And I said, I want to mess with the roof. What can you do and make this wonderful? I said, well, I did this job in Benita Bay with this computer genius. I had a company that was doing all these computer parts. He was selling them all over the world. And I said, we ran out of room. And the architect did this beautiful house. But there was no room for the staircase to come down. So we made it landing. And then we did stairs coming swinging down above the side of the water curtain. So you walked over. And I thought, it's beautiful water curtain. And you maneuvered to the right and went under this tower.
Christian Busk. And I said, this one, I said, we have a similar thing. I said, I'll show you a picture of your life. And he goes, oh, I want to see that. So I showed him to you. That's it. I want to do that right there. So we had to do pilings and everything. So we did that. And we're still working with it. That was 10 years ago. So we added that. We made it the pool I had done back in It was about 1981. Anyways It was a simple pool. She didn't want anything special. So this new client has like five poodles. And they really love their poodles. So I said, you know what? Since you really like your dogs that are major-- let's do a water garden for your dogs, OK?
Christian Busk. So we expanded the pool twice the size. It's this big fan shape. Let the water spill over the backside. So the big poodles are there in the small pool. And they put this beautiful sculpture, these water sprays, out of this big Venus marble sculpture from An antique dealer on the east coast. Anyways, we got it all done. And It's An amazing place. And they're amazing people. And I'm glad I get to work on a job for 40 years to go back to the same property. Four different owners, but I just really enjoyed it. Be able to share that with someone. Of course, we knew-- I didn't know. You never know what your clients are all about.
Christian Busk. One day, all these truck stories show up one after another from this most important Company in Palm Beach that sells classic European relics from Castle Zone. It's like One truck loadout. And then I said, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore. I think we better kick it up a notch. So we did this beautiful French detailing everywhere. It's still amazing. Everything we did, you can walk it. I don't want to see any snakes. So I said, OK, well, I'm going to do walkways everywhere. So you can traverse the entire property, which is probably an acre and a half, which is big. It's two lots in there really deep. The faces, the sunset. Amazing.
Christian Busk. So she takes her dogs with little leashes and goes around all the walkways. And they don't see any snakes because they can see where they're going. So it's a fun little project to work with. Everyone wants something different, but you can also style it to meet their taste. Everything inside gilded this famous things and famous places. Like, oh my gosh, well, I just want you to step outside and feel the same way.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Are you ever going to slow down?
Christian Busk. Maybe. It's fun. The more you meet these people-- I've worked with really high powered people over time. And they're so nice, most of them. Anyways It's a Challenge. I don't know.
Robert DiLella Jr.. You seem like your passion is just still so there. Your passion never left.
Christian Busk. I do. I love it. I think the only reason people retired in the olden days-- it was time to retire. But nowadays with modern medicine, if you feel good, you should work. If you don't feel good, I understand it. If you feel Reasonably good, just keep doing it. If you like doing it, if you just hate the people, if it's something you just hate doing--
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Christian Busk. Builds over time like, oh It's a process. And things do change. Not too much, really, in our world. You make things beautiful and grow over time. And that's the hard part about my business is having different plants grow at the same rates. So if something's just outgrow everything, you can't do those. I can't leave a job and feel right about that. It just has to be the right thing for the right place. But That's what makes it fun. It makes it challenging. And you learn over time just from working on gardens and architecture. I love interiors. I have an interior store now and a retail nursery. But I did that because I love it so much. There's so many parts to it.
Christian Busk. It's just intriguing. It's just everything is intriguing. I grew up going to architecture school. We were the architects and interior designers and building construction at the University of Florida. So you're in the same building. You're seeing what they were doing. They had their thesis. They had the projects they had to put up on boards. And you're seeing all this. You kind of get an appreciation for it. And then after working with all these talents over time, I mean, of course, people's tastes changed and products changed. But it's just gotten better over time with the products that people are asking for. They see all these-- they're pinterest.
Christian Busk. There's stuff on there that everybody ever used to have access to. They say, I want to live just like this. Just like that. I know I want ebony. I want this polish. I want that color. I want it lit up from here. It gets very specific. So you have to be able to be a juggler and get it done. So it makes it-- it's challenging. It's somewhat exasperating. But depending on how much people drill you, they can pretty much leave you alone. That's the fun part. So yeah, it's kind of fun. How about you?
Robert DiLella Jr.. I don't know that I-- what would I do if I retired?
Christian Busk. That's what I said. I'm not going to send it home. I'm dead self-destruct. I could. I could watch my garden grow. But I mean, I could watch other people's garden grow. It's much fun. I get to try all kinds of things. So that's really the fun. So what do you do if you don't do it? Especially if you love what you do. In this day and age, I mean, it's real. It's different than when our parents Grew up. My dad retired at 55. And he got by himself a sailboat. I said, dad? He said, well, they offered me an early retirement. I said, OK, well, good for you. I said, that guy, he loved the last 30 years. He was like, man, I mean, he lived for that silly boat. And he did everything.
Christian Busk. He'd go over there and sleep on it. It'd be in St. Pete. He'd drive an hour away. He'd just go over there and can't bow and tie a knot here and pull it apart and tie another knot. I said, I don't want to do that. But I mean, good. I'd go and sail. But I really don't want to do the nuts and bolts and fix the carburetor and make sure that everything's working., a boat's survival. You've got to be a mechanic to have one. Yeah. Everything's broken. You just don't know where it is yet.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Oh, yeah. Our areas, this is such a unique place in the world. This is so special, what we have here. Naples is just one of a kind. I mean, it's hard for me to go on vacation anywhere To come back. We live in paradise. It's beautiful. I love that we have medians that look beautiful. Medians alone look spectacular.
Christian Busk. So much about this. That's my Dear friend Pam Lillie. She worked for me a year or two early when I brought her to Naples from New Orleans. She is such a beautiful person. And she is one of the hardest people I've ever met in my lifetime. She's got a photographic memory, and she does so much for Collier County. We get so many advantages having a professional in that business. And Knowing how to write grants, knowing how to write proposals, and knowing how to manage a group of people like that and do 153 miles of roadway. Well, it's amazing. I know. That was when I had a lot of help when I did the project.
Christian Busk. Because I had been doing residential work since Naples gave-- except for the promenade. I did the promenade 20 years ago. But that was still more like a residential project, really. But It's great to have a professional like that I say donate their time, because she spends more time than they pay her for in the county. And it just shows up, because you're able to get grants for whatever we want to do here. And she has a program, and she gets it. It's all the towns and cities that don't have people that have an interest in that, that take an interest. They just give the money away. They have the money available. You just have to show them how you want to spend it.
Christian Busk. So they have to expand it. They show how they use it. And there it is. And we do so much for lives, so much in cutbacks. And now you're doing all the Rotaries on all of Naples. You're doing the new rebuild of the Pine Ridge Road Interchange there. That's all county driven and sold by grants. All the artwork, all the maintenance on the roadways is all managed by the city, and all the sources of water. There's so much to go into those projects like that to make Naples beautiful. And of course, the city is different than the county. But it's just hard to believe we have that much. She has more than I've ever, that's all I remember.
Christian Busk. Over 150 miles of roadway does a lot to design, have it built, and to manage it. Emulsion every year. Virgolines every year. I get to hear about it because She's rich. She's an open book. Yeah, she tells me. All the challenges. It's a lot for one person. She works like five people. I'm just saying.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Truly. Get her money's worth out of her, right? Thanks very much.
Christian Busk. More than that. She's a genius at what she does. And there's, Collier County is so fortunate to have someone that has that kind of mind that can pull it together. So That's why Naples is beautiful like it is. And you really won't see many places. Even though you want to go to the best places in the world, you might see a nice little area that all of a sudden is blight. I mean, even on the East Coast. Parts of California go like, oh, there's a rodeo driver. That's about all you got. That's it. If you go to some important areas, it's like that one little cluster. It's not so pretty when you get outside that. It's not like it's connected by 150 miles or something.
Christian Busk. But we were lucky that we didn't get developed until much later on, I think. Even Benito was some old. Benito was bypassed in the 70s when they did New 41. And the business has absolutely died. Everything out of the 41 died. So it's taken all these years. That's what, 50 something years? Oh, it just took all traffic away from there.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Everything.
Christian Busk. So all the businesses died. Yeah, but it's getting a slow build back. And of course, we have a little wonder garden, which is fun. Now you've got the sugar shack that all the young people like to go to. Because we used to have concerts at the Naples Beach Hotel, which is now-- Yeah, a little more season. Yeah. But now you've got local talent of their local bank. But you have a local place having talent. And for younger people, the noise factor is not a problem there. You're in downtown. You have food. You have some nice food establishments happening, which brings people. It used to be not It was two people just running through there.
Christian Busk. We slowed it down with having the parking there and the medians. Put the medians in there. The Rotaries of Pennsylvania and Terry Street we put in. And I was lucky to do the mock dock park in Bonita. And I did parts of Terry Street. But it was fun to get to work on those and make those better than they ever were and use native materials and things that they could manage. So it's been fun to put all that together. But it is getting those things in place and then making everything else improve because people get the idea. It's not just-- we tried to hide all the-- Bonita tried to hide all the strip commercial because we were lucky to have Bonita to pay on one side.
Christian Busk. And then you had Country Creek on one side. It was just a small area. The rest was all stripped on the east side. 40 went all the way up and tried to hide the strip, all the Shopping plazas. Where there was a scheme going on the road. It was hiding. The standards were like 30 feet tall. All these lights, but nothing around them. So we were lucky to have something on one side. We just tried to emulate on the other side, which is kind of hard to do. But if you go through it now, you kind of see how it kind of matches on both sides. And we did-- yeah. So anyway, it is nice to be part of that and be Able to make a difference here.
Christian Busk. So I was happy to be here and be of service to my community and help them get to where we are now. Because it's been 10 years and you can really tell a difference. It does start to happen. Change where people think. But anyway, it's a beautiful development. And having the promenades that you will is quite nice. But there's incredible properties in there that Pelican Landing, amazing. So you get those projects on that side that really make the quarter great that you get to Fort Myers. They need to get some grants going on there. They could do so much. There's a lot of right of way all the way down. I mean, there's some challenging areas, but not really.
Christian Busk. It's like the airport when you come up there, it feels like the runway. They've done You could see they've had I guess they've had a little bit of budget still working. They've done a little bit of things. But some of the things they're doing are way out of scale. And now you have to pull it all out. It's just they do get money. Maybe they just don't put it in the right place. But they didn't seem to be a program like Naples has. And you could be. I think it's just a matter of the people in the right positions. Driving that home and getting the grants available.
Christian Busk. And getting those contracts and moving forward those professionals designing those landscapes and then managing them. That is so sad. I mean, you get Estero started it, but then you get to Fort Myers. And I just think they need more management with their professionals in that kind of arena. It does make a difference. You see Naples as a poster job for it. Amazing. No, it's special. I get to hear about it every week.
Robert DiLella Jr.. What would you Say That you love about your life? That's a question I always like to go with.
Christian Busk. Oh, really? You know what? I really enjoy meeting the people here. I think it's more, again, I have to say, I get to call in card and say, "Hey, you want to come over to see my old house?" I think, "Really?" But I mean, now I get to tell. I have the retail spot where we sell the plant materials. What we do, we sell the plant materials I like to use in my gardens. And that was the reason I opened a retail nursery. It's very small. But then I get into collecting beautiful interior pieces, iconic pieces from different designers, art, mirrors, you name it, for the interiors. I have it. I absolutely love doing that. I've seen it my whole life.
Christian Busk. I like to Meet people and see What I can do for them. I just love that sense of enjoyment. And their intrigue is so enriching. The people, I mean, they're listening. What are you going to tell me? Everybody has something to offer. You just, if they're open It makes it so rewarding, especially when They've come from areas where they've done other projects with other professionals. It's a real It's a nice process to go through with them. And I think it's just, every time you meet with them, sometimes there's, I'm always thinking about each project and what am I going to do to make it better? And what am I going to make that one better? And where do I get that?
Christian Busk. How do I do it? And how am I going to get that in there? How am I going to, and then I'm going to tell them, show them, oh, I love that. Well, I don't like that stuff so much, but I like the idea., so you're trying to just test it. See, it's a proving ground for what people's tastes are, where they've been, what they want to feel like in their home. I think it's getting to know them. And honestly, I have to say Every project I've had with clients, I just, I end up Treating them like friends I can't help it. I just, I want to do whatever I can do for them. And that's, it's probably not the right way to look at it, just the way I feel about it every time.
Christian Busk. And so, and I just get a big kick out of it. I really do. So it's all about the people., whatever they're going through, whatever they want, whatever they didn't have that they want now, how are they going to entertain their clients or friends? I really want this. I want to sit here and look at this. I want to feel like this in this space. Okay, let's see how we can do that. It's just, it's the process. It's not overnight. You can't just, you can't just do that all the time. I have to meet with them and I have to come up with an IT. I say, this is what I would do because you have this space and this space. And here's what we do here.
Christian Busk. And we end up really with this golden corner here. This is the magic of your site. I just got to tell you, whatever you do, let's do this. It's about it. It'll make everything come together. And site is the discovery of what they get to go through while you're going through your creative process. So that's all I got to say. You got to, it's what you feel when you're doing it. Yeah, beautiful. Yeah, I like doing that. I get a big kick out of it. I really do. Yeah. Yeah, but that's the joy of doing it. I really feel it here. I mean, for me, they're friends. They probably say, oh, okay, it's time to go. And some people invite you in for wine.
Christian Busk. And then for dinner, they'll take you to dinner. And some people are just very quiet. And they appreciate what you did. I got the funniest thing I have to mention this. I have to mention this because it's fear in my heart. So I got to work with some celebrities. I don't know if I really should say who it is. But anyways, they live in Benita. And I didn't hear much after we finished the project. It was a very challenging project. All of a sudden Saturday night, 8.30, I get a voicemail and said, oh, no. What is this? Yeah, sorry. Christian I got to tell you, I'm here with my wife. And we're sitting at the table. You told us this, that we can see your vision.
Christian Busk. And we just love it. And we really thank you. Well, yeah It's quite a celebrity. And I don't know. I thought I was in big trouble. But now, I mean, you do everything. You pull every rabbit out of every hat. If you can, and you can, some people don't see how they're going to get there. And I said, hey, it's not a big deal. Let's just do this. We'll pick this up. We'll do this. We'll move this over here. We'll pull the drainage here. We'll do this. We'll get the lighting up. Now we can create the lighting for this and this and this and that. All links together. Don't you like that? Like, yeah, I kind of do. So it's just kind of doing those things.
Christian Busk. If it is the process I can't see it all the time. I have an idea what I'm doing. But I mean Sometimes you don't feel the magic until everything gets synced to the place with the paving and the water gardens and where the foliage has to be for a lot of reasons. So if there's only a place, you're creating all the places you can for something beautiful. And that's the hardest part. But it's the what you get at the end. I think that makes it worthwhile.
Robert DiLella Jr.. Yeah. That's You know, that gift you have of your vision when you see something and being able to communicate it to somebody when it's not there yet.
Christian Busk. It's not there yet. Totally. I know it's going to look like. Yeah, you can see it. I don't know what it's going to cost us, but I can't. You can't take so many pieces to make the puzzle fit. Just you don't know until you get towards the end, then you can tell. You can tell what everything is. And there's not much you can say without just not doing something. But if you change the material, you're going to save 10, 15 percent. Get what you want. I mean, how many times are you going to do it? The facilities projects are so small. I mean, they're so small. And what you have to work with, but you have to do so much with it.
Christian Busk. There's only so many ways to do that where you can maintain it over time. You can get it in, but then you get to maintain it over time. It's going to drain. It's got the things that all the planet has to ask for. Everything has to be drained. In our work, you have to drain everything because at 52 inches of rain, it's all at one time. I got to lift up the planets. I got to drain all the planets subsurface under the roots and above Ground range. You're getting all that in so everything is going to do well over time because it can't go back. That stuff I can't change. You've got to do it right. And then you're doing all the pretty stuff on top.
Christian Busk. You Really tell someone's beautiful work. You just take a torch and torch everything. And what you have left is what they started with and then all the gardens for free. But, we used to do some I did my most detailed work for them. Another good celebrity, wonderful people at Naples. I did their first job for this one architect that came in town. We had more hardscape on that than ever worked on it. We did six foot walls on both sides. The neighbors weren't very happy because they were in Houses next door that were done like, six feet below. And they were watching the shoes go by. But you couldn't help but with the current, the current building.
Christian Busk. Boy, you got to do the most of it. But Those are those are those are fun. As I tell people, it's everything just torture. Everything you see what we did without everything. But it's how we build it all together and make a
Robert DiLella Jr.. Program.
Christian Busk. Yeah, that's how civil civilizations were built. If you go where you see it now, there's nothing people are gone. The roofs are gone. It's just the foundations. So we build big foundations for gardens and then make them come alive., so it makes it really a challenge. And these little tiny lots. Yeah. How much you get let you go Golden Gate City or Golden Gate., our Pine Ridge has some big properties. Naples has some big properties, but there's not too many down. No, no. Down near the inner Gordon Pass or anything. Yeah. Pretty much unless you buy two or three lots and you get a little bit more to work with. Then the house get bigger. Anyway, it's all fun stuff.
Robert DiLella Jr.. I look forward to seeing the pictures and what Zach puts together when he puts.
Christian Busk. Yeah. I want to take you on a tour.
Robert DiLella Jr.. I know. Beautiful. Would you like that? Yeah. Yeah. Actually see
Christian Busk. We were doing two. We did two tours last year. We used to do the tours for the Panetta garden for further fundraisers. So we did one in Marco. I just want to get to work with him and just a little bit of time. And then We did one at this. I did bring to the home house and we did the banana banana Bay gardens. And so it was it's great to show the people. I don't know. Sometimes they're just garden lovers. They love they love just seeing something different in Naples. And then I always do the home garden tour. We were on the home garden tour in Naples For that one house we did on the Bay, which is a beautiful Renaissance amazing place for